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commented by sirius on Jul 25, 2007

Just a few days I came across this extremely interesting group. In the meantime I have read across some of the stuff on top of the list and I fully support from my heart the driving idea, the proposal to the Knowledge Commission for the rural development around Auroville. It serves many vital aspects simultaneously:

1) It gives UHU a challenging perspective for its development and “grounds” UHU in the earth of its environment and the practical realities which Auroville is quite familiar with.

2) It creates a true outreach aim for the whole of Auroville, demonstrating the ideal of human unity. By this project Auroville will give out of its skills, knowledge and wisdom and will grow up by doing so. In return Auroville will receive whatever it needs including the land required, because the world is waiting for such projects and ideas to take shape; because everybody can be convinced and will understand that Auroville’s existence is not only of “public interest” in general but is a wonderful exciting chance for the development and the future perspectives of the mostly young population of the wider Auroville region. So the question of land could be amicably settled with the villagers.

3) It attracts by the sheer complexity and novelty and the huge challenge the best educated and most motivated scientists, educators and managers of the world to come to Auroville and participate in this project. Because of this inflow from the world the IZ would find its true function as the international body of UHU, where the exchange with the world takes place in both directions.

One last comment for now: The proposal to the Knowledge Commission was generated as a “top down” concept. In the next step one should try to develop it also “bottom-up”. Then the short-comings, which have been already mentioned by some members of this group, would be clearly seen and a balanced proposal would arise.

One main thing here is proper integral education from Kindergarten to vocational and academic skills and knowledge along the lines which now e.g. are in the implementation stage in NCBS and NEES. This alone is a huge task to fulfil for such a large region comprising many 100.000 people. One other main thing, which was not really addressed in the proposal, is the agricultural revolution which must be achieved.

And I would like to caution you about the funds needed to implement such a proposal. Alone to bring up AIS from its present status to a full fledged vocational training centre for only 500 students would at least cost 12 Crores. This little example, which I came to know by collaborating with AIS, illustrates that the funds needed for the whole program will not be 50 Crores but at least one magnitude more.

So my recommendation would be, to build up a data base of the region, and derive from the structure of the population and the present state of agriculture, water and energy demand and supply, the present importance of industries and handicrafts etc. future scenarios of what must be achieved on the ground. The networks and knowledge based management systems described in the proposal would then not float in the air but serve a complex system

of educational efforts,

of vocational activities and knowledge based income generation and

of research, arts and creative expressions of all kinds,

flowering upon a secured livelihood.

Based upon such an analysis a concept of how to proceed for achieving the objectives can be derived.

I would be happy to participate in this endeavour, which needs a multi-faceted, multi-dimensional universal approach.Smile

PS (26.07.2007): Today I read the first time the earlier stuff deeply hidden down below in the group-list (the PPP by Sankalp & ARTS, the articles on microfinance) and may understand now better the idea of IT-based village centres. Still poverty is eradicated by an high productivity, which can be achieved only by a higher level of organisation, not by own-account workers. Here the paradigm of cooperatives should come in as an alternative to the classical capitalistic enterpreneur who creates jobs for the many together with a high productive environment. The whole project should enhance this cooperative development path and include corresponding components.

Does anybody know about the practical experience with IT-based village centres? Are reports available?

Helmut.

commented by auromirra123@yahoo.com on Jun 30, 2007

ASRN Dear Rod, am up-to-date on everybody's verbal contributions so far, have read all your postings..this is to say, your suggested timeline etc for various aspects of the action plan, as also your call to see something happen right away are in consonance with my own wish. In short, as a part of the KCT, i am here committing myself to make the time and space available to be present at every concerned gathering in relation to the action plan, be an observer/make verbal contributions that i hope would add to the dynamism of the plan..above that, as per futher, more involved contributions on my part as a member, that would be naturally determined by the content and substance of the meetings that occur, and apart from my personal means and any unlikely physical disability acting as obstacles to my active contributions, i am whole-heartedly available to act to help make this happen. Please always keep me informed of future meetings which i need to attend. Thank you.

commented by auromirra123@yahoo.com on Jun 20, 2007

ASRN Actually, Rod, referring to your latest call for action (to put it lightly) i did inform myself in a very short time through the reams if material already on the project.

Q1 You have meetings right? They occur not just to put together the concept of the project, which has already taken place, but also so you can devise actual practical action plans, both collective and individual, go away and act on them and report back etc....or has this not actually occurred yet? Also, you can't do this online, i believe you need to meet in person and make specific commitments once they've been identified. What are the barriers right now to this form of action to occur now, how can that be remedied, so real dynamic day-to-day action begins to happen? Finally, when can such a scenario take place?

replied by auromirra123@yahoo.com on Jun 21, 2007

ASRN Ok, noted the past and present scenario of the project status, which is as i thought it was. As in the past, so now, Rod, you're pretty much stuck in the role of co-ordinator..in this case, create a conference online and otherwise with the specific purpose of drawing an action plan which includes the allocation of individual responsibilities, which of course needs to come voluntarily. First step; "gather together the members" Step 2 Devise collectively at a meeting an action plan with individual responsibilities, setting timetables to act and report back at the next pre-set meeting etc. This scenario ought to see some action on the ground.

commented by auromirra123@yahoo.com on Jun 17, 2007

ASRN Rod,

Members of the team may have to divert their full attention from the project from time to time, as you see in Bhavana's case, but the project does not have "to quietly go away" as is seems to be very alive in the general dynamics of the team, which will also not go away. The project, although well thought out, is massive, the input of energy will also have to correspond to that. This is a very important project as nothing of the likes of it exists in any obvious and comprehensive manner. The fact that it exists at all as a passionate concept and plan, with members already waiting on the sidelines for their cues to act to further its development, is already quite an achievement..but yes, let's not rest on our laurels.

commented by bhavana on Jun 16, 2007

Hello Folks,

It has been a great thing having Subra here in Auroville, it is hard for me not to get very enthusiastic and hopeful that this project will take us here into a next, more mature phase of "outreach" in which our many diverse inputs (from appropriate technology and building, to wasteland restoration and watershed management, from organic farming, to health, to livelihood, and of course education in the broadest sense) will be able to work together to enrich the lives of the villagers, and at the same time enrich us all in Human Unity.

I think that we should go ahead simultaneously with the PP, as well as planning for a seminar in September. I'm glad that Subra has agreed to come and spend August here in Auroville. I am an enthusaistc and willing participant, but during the next two months i will be giving my full attention to my mother in the States, and won't be able to get the the computer. I'll be back on line in August.


with love,

bhavana

replied by auromirra123@yahoo.com on Jun 17, 2007

ASRN To the first paragraph...Yea to that! To the second..our microcosmic concerns are as important as the ones out in the world at large..may your time with your mother be a fulfilling one.

commented by Rod on Jun 16, 2007

I would like to see the other members of the team signed in to this discussion. Is there any way to reach out to the complete list and especially Bill, Rich, Chandresh, Bhavana, Lakshman, and maybe Marc L. for feedback? I participated in the discussion leading to Subra's comment and am very interested in knowing if it raises any questions or stimulates any thoughts that we might begin to address. This can either begin to move or quietly go away.

Rod

replied by Shivi Elambooranan on Jun 16, 2007

Dear Rod,

I have one point to suggest at 4(a), that in the proposed national seminar at Auroville in August 2007, the 'new paradigm' concept to be discussed include provision for training in the Yoga.

If it is thought worthwhile, a slide or two could be devoted to this in the PPT for the NKC.

With warm regards,

Shivi

 

commented by subra on Jun 14, 2007

Dear Rod,

 

Thank you for the opportunity to meet with you and Bhavana at Saracon on 13th June 2007, to carry forward with the task of developing a suitable PowerPoint presentation and report of the new paradigm proposal, for submission to the KC/PC.

These are the salient points that were discussed:

1. There is renewed optimism that it would be possible to develop a project proposal that would integrate the approaches that were first sent to Dr Pitroda, on the basis of which the Teleconference was held on 31st May 2007.

2. It is felt that it would take between six months and one year to develop an acceptable project proposal that could be eventually submitted to the Planning Commission, for consideration.

3. The scope of this integrated project will include:

(a) A bioregion comprising of about 600,000 people as the targeted beneficiaries, in the vicinity of Auroville;

(b) The funds requested will be in the region of Rs.50 Crores;

(c) The project duration will be between five and ten years.

4. The following three-stage strategy/timeline could be adopted to develop the final project proposal defined in '3':

a) August 2007: Conduct a national seminar at Auroville, where the concept of the new paradigm would be discussed between project partners and supporters of the 'new paradigm' idea; selected public-private partners from government, private industry, knowledge-based resources and NGOs will also be invited to this seminar, the objective being to develop long-term network partners and financial contributors for the next stages;

b) September 2007: Based on the success of 4a), particularly with reference to the development of public-private partnerships, a pilot project with a budget of about Rs 2.5 Crores will be developed, for implementation within a one-year time period; the object of this pilot project would be to test the hypotheses and projections of our 'new paradigm' for rural development, and where necessary, tweak the concepts and fine-tune the workplans for the 'final' integrated project proposal.

c) March-May 2008: Based on the success of 4a) and the knowledge acquired from the ongoing implementation of 4b), the new paradigm would have conceptually attained sufficient maturity of core concepts and validation of project parameters and assumptions, and we believe that we would then be in a position to conscientiously develop a robust Rs. 50 Crore project proposal, for final submission to the Planning Commission.

5. The first step therefore would be to develop a PowerPoint presentation that would (a) be a first response to Dr Pitroda's request for our integrated project plan; and (b) adequately explain to the selected public-private partners from government, private industry, knowledge-based resources and NGOs in 4a), why they should become a part of this process.

6. The institutional mechanisms, organizational structure and legal status of the organization for implementing this massive project - should it be approved by the 'Planning Commission' - also needs to be debated, as there is currently no suitable organization at Auroville that can oversee a project of this magnitude.

I would invite other members of the 'Knowledge Commission Team' to contribute to this debate, and help in finalizing the PowerPoint presentation mentioned in item no. 5.

With warmest regards,

Subra.